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Tazz Member
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Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:06 pm
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jenjen Moderatrix
Joined: 30 Jun 2003 Posts: 7617 | TRs | Pics Location: Sierra stylin |
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Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:21 pm
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My aunt and uncle got to watch a bear do that with their food bag in Yosemite years ago. Reportedly, it was a long and hungry 2 day walk out.
If life gives you melons - you might be dyslexic
If life gives you melons - you might be dyslexic
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Stuart Member
Joined: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 128 | TRs | Pics Location: Bellevue, WA |
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Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:33 am
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I didnt know bears would hunt birds. I guess if your hungry enough...
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pianodirt Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 206 | TRs | Pics Location: glenoid fossa |
Maybe it's the lighting, but those look like doctored pics to me...
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Tazz Member
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Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:35 pm
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I don't think it is doctored. Bears are good climbers. They also love bird seed.
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Allison Feckless Swooner
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 12287 | TRs | Pics Location: putting on my Nikes before the comet comes |
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Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:57 pm
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Quote: | look like doctored pics to me... |
Yeah, the wire probably would not hold the bear, for one thing.
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Tazz Member
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Scrooge Famous Grouse
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 6966 | TRs | Pics Location: wishful thinking |
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Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:57 pm
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That ought to stop the complaints about my sashcord bear line and how it's hard to hold on to and pull up.
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polarbear Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 3680 | TRs | Pics Location: Snow Lake hide-away |
Funny pictures. I think they are real.
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Blue Dome Now with Retsyn
Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 3144 | TRs | Pics Location: Cleaning up the dogma. |
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:24 am
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Funny pics. I think they’re real, too. On the last pic, the shadow on the upside-down bear’s snout is just right.
I’ve wondered if having an Ursack is worth it. Of course, they’re “bear resistant” — it would take a while before a bear would tire of trying to tear into it, or if possible he’d just carry it away. That they now make double-thickness Ursacks and they include an odor barrier is telling.
From the Ursack Web site: http://www.ursack.com/home.htm
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June 30, 2005
The Sierra Interagency Black Bear Group (SIBBG) conducted an exhaustive wilderness study of 15 Ursack TKOs in the summer of 2004.
Despite numerous bear encounters, no bears or marmots were able to access food from an Ursack...
Is Ursack resistant to rodents, marmots, wolves, etc?
Ursack is highly effective against Marmots and raccoons. It should not be considered wolf or dog resistant. That's because they have sharp teeth and strong jaws. Bears have great strength, but their teeth are not sharp.
Other rodents have varying degrees of success. Sometimes mice can chew very small holes, but very little of your food is likely to be taken. Some species of squirrels and (we have heard) pine martens have greater success, and may on rare occasion chew holes in Ursack. |
In the end, I suppose they’re good as a preventative measure.
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— Harry S. Truman
“I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell.”
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wildernessed viewbagger
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 9275 | TRs | Pics Location: Wenatchee |
In most instances my concern is rodents of all varieties, I generally use a waterproof airtight dry bag like OR advanced Hydroseal or of late Sea to Summit lightweight drybags. In known bear active areas I use a Garcia Bear canister. A trick to inhibit rodents from accessing hung food is to place a half cut plastic coffee lid about a foot or two above the bag with a knot right below. The rodent can't see the bag and can't reach safely around the obstructing lid so gives up (if your lucky).
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Allison Feckless Swooner
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:08 am
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I've heard a lot about tricks like the one described above, wondering if anyone has ever has a problem with a rodent climbing down the string and getting into the food.
I know it's possible, wondering if it ever actually happens.
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wildernessed viewbagger
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 9275 | TRs | Pics Location: Wenatchee |
Yeah, we had a tenacious raccoon that ripped through our food bag as it was hung while in Maine, I remember throwing huge rocks and scoring direct hits on the thing a couple times before I finally knocked it off the rope. The disc prevents the rodent / varmit from seeing below and it's ability to get a handhold below the disc. As for Ursack and I am talking as one who has used bags in the past, far less capable as ursack. The animal if your talking bear may not get to the ingredients but still can crush and mangle the contents and also the bear can carry away the ursack if he gets it. The shape of the canister is designed to prevent a firm hold on the canister or it's collapse, or the disruption of it's contents.
P.S. I use bags all the time except in areas where there is noted and expected bear activity, then I take the canister.
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ActionBetty Im a dirty hippie!
Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 4807 | TRs | Pics Location: kennewick, wa |
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:53 pm
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I was checking out some of those bear canisters at REI.. Holy crap.. the light blue lexan one I could fit my gear and my food in...who needs a pack..
"If you're not living good, you gotta travel wide"...Bob Marley
"If you're not living good, you gotta travel wide"...Bob Marley
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