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Davidą Token Canadian
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Davidą
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Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:09 pm
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http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/15aug_backwards.htm
I got all excited reading this article because it's been 2 years since we've had a good show of Northern Lights, but then they threw this in...
"Even if Cycle 24 has truly begun, "don't expect any great storms right away." Solar cycles last 11 years and take time to build up to fever pitch"
Heck what's a couple more years of waiting?
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moosefish I am the fish
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Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:47 pm
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David & Karen wrote: | Heck what's a couple more years of waiting? |
It'll give me time to save money for another trip into the perpetually clouded north. What a waste of money that was.
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jimmymac Zip Lock Bagger
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Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:11 pm
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That's actually great timing. If the next cycle came and went too soon, Kasey might not remember it.
I was 25 before I remeber seeing my first display, but my parents talk like seeing the Northern Lights was a fairly common when I was very small.
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MtnGoat Member
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:43 pm
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moosefish wrote: | David & Karen wrote: | Heck what's a couple more years of waiting? |
It'll give me time to save money for another trip into the perpetually clouded north. What a waste of money that was. |
Heck you don't need to go north during solar max, and especially not for a strong one. During these periods, the auroras come south for you. During the peak year of '58, the previous record cycle, there were three storms visible in Mexico, of all places.
During the Perseid meteor shower 2001 ( i think) we had a great aurora and meteors at the same time, I was at haunted Janus lake for that one. Saw a decent light show from Chetwoot lake in Aug 2003, and another really sweet one from home here in the Gorge in Nov 2004. There was a storm visible in WA about two weeks ago as well.
In fact, there was a coronal mass ejection yesterday and it may be headed for earth, it's expected to hit and maybe give us some goods tonight or tomorrow. The key is dark skies, a good northern horizon view, and actually being out looking, especially 11pm-2am.
here is the site to check every day, or before you go to bed as they will update when storms are in progress....
www.spaceweather.com
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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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Davidą Token Canadian
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:33 pm
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MtnGoat wrote: | The key is dark skies, a good northern horizon view, and actually being out looking, especially 11pm-2am. |
Wrong adjective! In the northwest the key is CLEAR skies!
I can't remember how many times the rest of North America had great shows and when I went outside all I saw was cloud!
Although once I was rewarded with green clouds!
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Rob Jordan Member
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I just got an alert yesterday from the aurora forecasting people in Alaska. They say aurora may be visible in the northern US either tonight (Friday night) if it's on time or Saturday night if it's late.
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SlowWalker Perma-grinner
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:24 am
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Right on! I'll be in a dark place with clear skies looking up
I've only ever seen the aurora from 30,000 feet on a plane over Greenland bound for Europe.
Seeing a real show, though, is on my lifetime to-do list.
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Davidą Token Canadian
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:30 pm
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The CME already hit, it was weak, so no auroras this time. It was only a C class explosion so I'm not surprised. Generally it's the M or X class flares that spark auroras at these latitudes. MtnGoat is right, keep an eye on Spaceweather, it will keep you up to date.
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MtnGoat Member
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:17 pm
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yup, no show this time. the shock hit us at about 1600 UTC, as you can see from the 100km/s jump in solar wind velocity (yellow graph) and the jump in temperature (green graph).
The problem is we only get shows when the magnetic field component for the earth's local field is pushed S at the same time, and this time it stayed N (Red line is above the dashed center line). Had it hit at 700-1000UTC when the field was way S, we probably would have had a show.
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/ace/MAG_SWEPAM_24h.html
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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SlowWalker Perma-grinner
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Thanks for bursting my bubble.
I'll just look at stars and man-made satellites then.
If I don't see any of them, I'll at least watch a couple of Seattleites.
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liembo Member
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Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:07 pm
another aurora watch for mid-liatitudes
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(mid latitudes magnetically speaking, which does cover northern WA)
Subject: [Aurorawatch] Middle Latitude Auroral Activity WATCH - 27-28 August
MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY WATCH
Issued: 16:50 UTC on 27 August 2006
Solar Terrestrial Dispatch
www.spacew.com
VALID BEGINNING AT: EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY
VALID UNTIL: 24:00 UTC (6 pm EDT) ON 28 AUGUST
HIGH RISK PERIOD: 27 - EARLY 28 AUGUST (UTC DAYS)
MODERATE RISK PERIOD: 27-28 AUGUST
PREDICTED ACTIVITY INDICES: 24, 27, 12, 8 (27 AUG - 30 AUG)
POTENTIAL MAGNITUDE OF MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY: MODERATE
POTENTIAL DURATION OF THIS ACTIVITY: MAIN BELT = 12-18 HOURS
MINOR BELT = 18-36 HOURS
ESTIMATED OPTIMUM OBSERVING CONDITIONS: NEAR LOCAL MIDNIGHT
EXPECTED LUNAR INTERFERENCE: NONE
OVERALL OPPORTUNITY FOR OBSERVATIONS FROM MIDDLE LATITUDES: FAIR
AURORAL ACTIVITY *MAY* BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM...
(THIS LINE IS VALID *ONLY* IF FAVORABLE STORM CONDITIONS OCCUR)
SOUTHERN BRITISH COLUMBIA TO IDAHO TO MONTANA TO SOUTH DAKOTA TO MINNESOTA
TO WISCONSIN TO MICHIGAN TO DARK-SKY SITES OF NEW YORK TO MAINE.
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Skinem Member
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Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:28 am
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Quote: | I was 25 before I remeber seeing my first display, but my parents talk like seeing the Northern Lights was a fairly common when I was very small. |
Jimmymac, don't know how old you are, but I remember seeing them fairly frequently in northeast WA during the 60's and early 70's.
I saw them one night in middle Tennessee in 2001 or 2002--that really surprised me--faint green streaks ebbing and flowing for about 30 minutes.
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Earth First! We'll strip mine the rest of the galaxy later.
They call me the thread killer...
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