[Allison]

Hey, I know we've talked about this before, but I need to find a list, or lists, of the trails that the NF recently lifted the parking pass requirement on. TIA

[Ice Girl]

i think it is on one of their websites, it seem to me i saw it there. Ice Girl

[kleet]

I heartily recommend the search feature.

[Dogpatch]

[sooperfly]

ML, hope this helps. Will try and find an actual link you don't have to pay for. Trailheads added to the list (were free but now require the pass): Leavenworth Ranger District Blackpine Creek, Icicle Gorge u Methow Valley Ranger District Rainy Pass *** Trailheads dropped from the list (no longer have fees): Chelan Ranger District Summer Blossom Entiat Ranger District Maverick Saddle Leavenworth Ranger District Big Meadow Creek, Heather Lake, Irving Pass, Lake Ethel, Lanham Lake, Minotaur Lake, Pacific Crest Trail North Highway 2, Pacific Crest Trail South Highway 2, Rock Mountain, Shaser/Iron Mountain, Snowy Creek, Top Lake, Upper Mission Ridge Tonasket Ranger District Tiffany, North Fork Salmon Methow Valley Ranger District East Fork Buttermilk, Libby Lake, Rattlesnake, Reynolds Creek, South Creek, West Fork Buttermilk *** Camping sites that were under the Northwest Pass and now require nightly camping fees, typically $4 or $5, but no forest pass: Chelan Ranger District Snowberry, Antilon Lake Leavenworth Alpine Meadows, Atkinson Flat, 19 Mile, Schaefer Creek, Rock Creek, River Bend, Phelps Creek, Phelps Creek Equestrian, Goose Creek, Finner Creek, Chiwawa Horse.

[Allison]

Soop, thanks. The FS does not have the free sites listed on their site, just the fee ones. I happen to have a complete list of fee versus free for WA, you guys want me to try and get it in a form that I can publish it online? I'm on deadline for the mag right now, but might have more time next week. What I need from you all is any info on free hikes in the ONP on the beach. Their Media Relations Specialist has not called me back. I thought all the beach stuff was free, but my friend Mark went to Toleak Point about three weeks ago, and he tells me there is a pay box for permits there. Anyone been to the ocean in the last couple of months and NOT had to pay a fee? TIA for he'p!!

[Damian]

If you are 17 or older, overnight camping in ONP requires a fee no matter where you are, including the ocean. http://www.nps.gov/olym/wic/permits.htm

[kleet]

[Malachai Constant]

[sarbar]

All the beaches near Klaloch are free, as is Rialto. Just figure pay on the Northern section, free on the Southern section. There is a pay booth at Ozette and of course you get gouged 2 ways at ShiShi..... Btw, the PCT parking lot at Chinook Pass is now a Fee area if you stay longer than 15 minutes.

[Allison]

[sarbar]

Marylou, read my post (even though you may not see it since you tend to ignore my posts) There are still plenty of free areas in the ONP for getting to and enjoying. You still have to pay for backcountry permits, but it's free to drive up to Deer Park, and in winter you can go to Staircase, Elwha, etc with no fee for coming in. Btw, if you have a NP pass, you do not have to pay at Ozette (or if you are backpacking).

[Allison]

If you have to pay or have a pass, it's not free. Thanks to all who helped. I went through the lists and books with my good friend Jenjen and we picked out ten-ish places that will work.

[pianodirt]