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PostSun May 15, 2022 4:30 pm 
Rare that we see a new trail built. There will be those that object, but sounds reasonable to me. hmmm.gif https://www.ncwlife.com/forest-service-proposing-a-new-trail-along-the-shore-of-lake-chelan/

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PostSun May 15, 2022 5:42 pm 
Sounds like a good idea

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PostSun May 15, 2022 6:14 pm 
This sounds great!

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PostSun May 15, 2022 8:48 pm 
Fantastic idea. Who would object? It's not wilderness. There's motorized dirt bike trails in the hills above this area, and power boats down on the lake, so it's not exactly a pristine area. And there is a huge demand for a new trail to take pressure off the Chelan Lakeshore trail on the north side. Public comments being accepted right now and it says comments submitted by today would be most useful https://cara.fs2c.usda.gov/Public//CommentInput?Project=43304 https://www.fs.usda.gov/project/?project=43304

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PostSun May 15, 2022 9:43 pm 
A lot of the old trail is still visible on satellite especially in talus fields. Looks like they have to detour around private property instead of using the entire old trail. Is Box Canyon a cool spot or something? Just curious why CCC built a trail to there and stopped. It looks like there are trails that continue past Box Canyon a ways as well.

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PostMon May 16, 2022 8:49 am 
Instead of a new trail, how about some maintenance on other existing Lake Chelan trails and camp spots? A portion of the trail to Milham Pass from Domke Lake was cleared recently up to Emerald Park. The rest of that trail from Emerald Park over Milham Pass is not. Domke Lake and Hatchery Creek campgrounds have been closed since as far back as 2007 and just need to be cleared out. Why those weren't addressed at the same time they were clearing trail in that area? Kinda odd since it is an area they can use chainsaws in. The Domke Lake area was well used before they let them go to pot. Yet now there is money available and USFS wants to build a new trail? dizzy.gif

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PostMon May 16, 2022 9:41 am 
Leafguy wrote:
The Domke Lake area was well used before they let them go to pot.
Well, to be sure, that wildfire that burned the campground to cinders hasn't done anything to increase useage.

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PostMon May 16, 2022 10:38 am 
Leafguy wrote:
Instead of a new trail, how about some maintenance on other existing Lake Chelan trails and camp spots?
Sure that makes sense in general. But for this project, my guess is that the Lake Chelan Community Open Space Vision and its sponsors (City of Chelan, Lake Chelan Trails Alliance, Chelan-Douglas Land Trust, the Trust for Public Land) have been working toward this since 2016 for this trail in this location and are probably good funding sources. From 2016 to the status of it now is lightning speed ! Maintaining existing trails along the lakeshore are outside of the scope of the project, its stakeholders, and funding sources.

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PostWed May 18, 2022 6:41 am 
Of course the whole issue comes down to money and if someone else is funding that project that's great. FS just needs to quit playing games with the Domke Lake steward and shift their concerns to the forest users. rant.gif The Domke and Hatchery Creek campgrounds just need some chain saw action. There is actually still some green around them compared to the rest of the lake. Part of the Domke campground has been closed off since 07 with no action taken since then. Just sad to see a nice big lake that's only a few miles hike be neglected to the point it hardly gets used. That's my 2 cents worth. rant.gif winksmile.gif

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PostWed May 18, 2022 8:35 am 
Leafguy wrote:
FS just needs to quit playing games with the Domke Lake steward and shift their concerns to the forest users
Can you expand this statement?

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PostWed May 18, 2022 9:07 am 
Bramble_Scramble wrote:
Looks like they have to detour around private property instead of using the entire old trail
That's kind of a bummer. Looks like maybe 2000' cumulative gain just to get down the the lake and back. Are people willing to do that for a trail that doesn't really go anywhere and is 3.5 hr from the urban center? Also I agree funds might be better spent on maintaining existing trails, but Kim is suggesting this comes from a different bucket, so that sounds reasonable. Again I'm just curious about how much use it would actually get. Looks like it would be open to bikes so might become more of a mountain bike thing although I'm not sure who wants to do most of their gain on the way out.

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PostWed May 18, 2022 10:10 am 
The trail gets you along Lake Chelan shore without requiring the expense and logistical challenges of the boat. That's a huge attraction. It would be a perfect shoulder season day hike. All the other mountain bike trails in this area are open to motorized dirt bikes. So it would be nice to have one trail open to mountain bikes, but not dirt bikes.

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