[altasnob]

Here's another Forest Service plan that received very little public attention. Starting as soon as this winter, the Forest Service approved yurts to be constructed at Cold Springs Campground on the South side of Mt. Adams. A private concessionaire would run the yurts. This is much less invasive than the huts proposed at Mt. St. Helens as the yurts are temporary structures and would be removed in the Summer. They wouldn't require clearing a site and would use the existing campground toilet. The yurt proposal is discussed on page 5 and 6. This letter is not posted on the Forest Service website. I had to email them and request a copy, which they thankfully provided without requiring me to submit a formal FOIA request (which takes forever to process and typically costs money).

[Randito]

Yurts at Cold Springs sound awesome to me. I assume the operator will provide snowmobile or snowcat transport to the Yurt location (to where a folks drive their cars in the summer)

[treeswarper]

This made me remember an interesting old character, who would take "grannies" up the side of Adams as far as he could get by snowmobile. It was illegal, but he did it. I don't think it hurt or offended anyone.

[gb]

[treeswarper]

Are you comparing grannies to trash? All groups leave trash. Hikers, bikers, snowmobilers, skiers, etc. all have rude folks who leave trash and poop behind. I would think that having established camps would help. At Randle, the berry/mushroom camps were a major problem. The money taken in for commercial permits was put to use. Part of it went in to renting a dumpster. Some went to garbage bags. Each permit buyer was advised of the location of the dumpster, the need for some kind of toilet facilities, and given garbage bags. The trash left behind decreased and the dumpster was used by them. Sometimes, it's a lack of facilities and communication. You might not like the idea of providing facilities, but it does help to have at the least, dumpsters, garbage bags, and information.

[Ski]

Isn't any one user group that leaves any more or less trash behind than any other. Slobs abound in every user group. And hikers and backpackers aren't buying gasoline like the snowmobilers and motorcycle riders.

[Randito]

Given the frequency of discussions about the scourge of dog poop bags on hiking trails -- I'm mnot sure granola powered users have a lot of moral high ground. One would hope that the Yurt operator will organize a "clean up" operation in the spring with the volunteers being rewarded with first picks of dates for next season.

[Ski]

Given the frequency of discussions about the scourge of dog poop bags on hiking trails hundreds of pounds of trash I've packed out of "hiker only" areas -- I'm not sure granola powered users have a lot of moral high ground. FIFY

[jaysway]

[altasnob]

Dog poop in the skin track

[Malachai Constant]

Brown klister

[Cyclopath]

[treeswarper]

Trash that sticks to your klister.