[sarbar]

Thanks Greg, for getting it! You help them, and shake your head when they cant see it-and pray they become hikers or backpackers eventually.

[MooseAndSquirrel]

[foggy]

[switchback]

sarbar - If your referring to me. I have read some of your other posts. However, the ones on this thread show you to be an elitist snob and a braggart. Actually I have a great sense of humor, and it sounds like you do as well. These traits are not mutually exclusive however. I do not know what you are talking about when you say you thought about responding to my call on partners. I'm confused about that one. Your last comment about not judging you because you have not judged me is absolutely ludicrous. You open yourself up to judgment by openly judging strangers yourself. Realize the stuff you post can be seen as being hypocritical.

[sarbar]

I had gotten your screen name mixed up in my head of another poster who lives over on the pennisula who was looking for partners to hike with. But whatever on that. I do take offense to being called an "elitist snob' I am NOT ONE SO GET OVER IT! The freaking reason I even posted this thread orginally was to explain the word touron from another thread. If you idiots want to read into my post that I am some freak snob on the trail then read all you want. If you hiked with me, you would realize I am so far from being that way. You can have whatever opinion you want, but it is amamzing that some of you can only copy what the first says and keep calling me an 'elitist' Talk about orginality! But I am not ashamed to admit that I despise trail idiots-the ones I described at the start of this thread.

[switchback]

It amazes me that you can think were just copying the first guy that called you elitist, instead of thinking, "Gee, maybe I am coming off a little snobby! I wonder what I could have said differently that would have got my point across without sounding condescending?" Anyway, I really didn't want this to turn into a battle royale. I will be glad to shake hands and walk away from this as my misunderstanding. We may see each other on the trail someday!

[Phil]

[sarbar]

Oh Quark, if only you had known me 4 years ago.......hiking is what has made me healthy physically, but lord do my joints ache at night, and I am only 30. I need hiking poles to come down steep trails......I am no superhuman when it comes to being in shape-I wish! Nope, I am a normal average hiker who doesn't go to the gym or lift weights. yep, I have thunder thighs and I still need to lose more weight. So no, I am not lucky-I was in such bad shape 6 years ago when I had my son, i had to have him 5 weeks early to prevent the chance of my Toxemia killing us. At my heaviest I weighed 232 lbs. I had high blood pressure and I could not walk more than 1/10th of a mile without being beet red in the face. I still have varicose veins that itch after long trips to show what being unhealthy does to you. I am proud of what I can do now-but I still hike with others who cannot. I have hiked trails with one of my best hiking partners who is very slow-5 miles, 4 hours, because I love her company more than anything else. I encourage almost everybody I know in my life to embrace the outdoors and get out there. So I like to knock on tourons? It still does not make me a snob or an elitist! PS: I never said anything about spraypainting rocks or tipping over outhouses-where did you get that?

[whistlingmarmot]

I saw a guy wearing a beenie on the trail one day. Didn't see him carrying a poodle though. Some days I get tired of hiking, and go on a drive. I may stop and take photos, but I keep moron behavior to a minimum.

[MCaver]

[Phil]

[Backpacker Joe]

I didn't call anybody elitist! I was talking about a frame of mind that I have noticed in myself and others at times. The point to bringing it up was awareness, that's all. TB

[sarbar]

Don't worry, BPJ, I wasn't referring to you.

[C Dog]

[MooseAndSquirrel]

She needs a new keyboard! The old one is apparently missing some keys.