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PostWed Aug 09, 2023 8:20 am 
Cadmium is indeed a highly toxic metal but is really only metabolized when it is breathed. I agree with Mike that there could be significant quantities in that mud and caution is advised, but I doubt touching them and cleaning them with water would cause significant exposure. In the undersea community cadmium plating is still routinely used because it works best. I handled cadmium plated parts a lot when I was still working, but no grinding or dry cutting was allowed.

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PostWed Aug 09, 2023 8:26 am 
^ Cadmium = bad stuff. Stay away. Was used for years by several manufacturers of mechanics hand tools as a rust-preventive coating, many of which are still in use and in circulation in the second-hand tool market. Over an over and over we have to caution new collectors to NOT put those tools on a wire wheel or grinder, or attempt to "clean" them with abrasive compounds or steel wool. Appearance-wise, it has something of a dull, grayish color, but there you will see variations between different manufacturers: Duro-Indestro is more grayish, Walden Worcester (and their "Tomahawk" line) have kind of a purplish tinge (at least to my eyes), Dunlap (Sears private label) was more a bright silvery finish. Other brands have yet more variations in appearance. Stay away. Stay very far away.
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It was used in paints for orange colors in olden days.
As were many other toxic elements - cobalt, titanium, and zinc, among others. Anecdotally, it has been posited that a good many artists from days past may well have had their mental faculties compromised by ingesting these substances when they put their brushes in their mouths to shape the tips. (think: Vincent van Gogh) Women who were painting the "glow-in-the-dark" dials on instrument clusters for the military during WWII suffered all kinds of weird physical ailments from ingesting the toxic compounds in the paint when shaping the brushes in their mouths.

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PostWed Aug 09, 2023 9:20 am 
Most of the ores in the cascades were complex and the minerals were in combined form often with arsenic and antimony unlike California placer nuggets and dust. In addition mercury was used in the concentration process so that gold found downstream of Monte Crisco was in alloyed with mercury.

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PostSun Aug 27, 2023 5:03 pm 
Went back to the unnamed MLH mine this time with rubber boots, but we didn’t get far in since the water is about knee high, plan to return with hip waders. We got a bit of that orange mud on our arms and it was burning our skin a bit but we were able to quickly wash it off with no further issues.
about 150’ inside mine entrance, weird place for a bird nest?
about 150’ inside mine entrance, weird place for a bird nest?

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PostSun Aug 27, 2023 5:08 pm 
Chief Joseph wrote:
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PostSun Aug 27, 2023 10:35 pm 
Chief Joseph wrote:
about 150’ inside mine entrance, weird place for a bird nest?
about 150’ inside mine entrance, weird place for a bird nest?
That looks like a pack rat nest to me. Didn't know there were any in Washington, but it seems there are: https://www.cascadepest.com/whats-a-pack-rat-is-it-a-real-rat/#:~:text=Pack%20Rats%20are%20Real&text=And%20they%20are%20here%20in,foothills%20and%20close%20to%20mountains.

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PostTue Aug 29, 2023 9:53 am 
Hip waders won't be enough swim.

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PostTue Aug 29, 2023 1:04 pm 
Waders will get us further at least, might have to bring a raft. Not sure if we will try again this year. Amazing home for a Pack Rat, but he has to go quite a ways to find items to pack.

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PostSun Sep 17, 2023 11:26 pm 
Went back recently, added another length of old rope I brought from Idaho, so easier to access upper adit and especially while descending. Brought hip waders and explored most of the lower adit except for a spot where there are collapsing timbers, and a crawl through and going up...so need to go back, probably not 'till spring though. Also the upper adit further in has a spot where there are timbers ready to collapse with debris also above...we saw some graffiti on the walls, some from the 40's...won't go back in that area, it doesn't go to far back and is too dangerous. Ironically, we met a NWHiker's son while parked on the MLH after our exploration...he was using a drone to explore the mine route and Long mountain.

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PostThu May 09, 2024 7:45 pm 
Returned to the BQ mine after 3 years. Route is well flagged and it good shape. Used a rope in one spot, there were 2-3 other places where one would have been nice, but not necessary. Was steep but short, was rough for first hike of the year, took 1 hr 15 min up, less than a HH down. No worries about over publicized as there are no artifacts, just old track and piping. Found that the far right tunnel that had foot deep water doesn't go back far at all. No real reason to repeat this one again, although I did leave my favorite wooden hiking staff somewhere along the way and found another good one.
sign reads "Rabid Bats, do not enter".
sign reads "Rabid Bats, do not enter".
flooded tunnel
flooded tunnel

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PostMon May 13, 2024 6:29 am 
What "far right tunnel" are we talking about?

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PostMon May 13, 2024 9:39 pm 
I guess that "Far right tunnel" is misleading. We just went in until the mine splits left and right, just where the collapsed shaft is joining it to the upper mine. We had previously went to the end of the left tunnel but not the right because it was flooded. So we brought boots and went in the right tunnel only to find it doesn't go far.

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PostTue May 14, 2024 5:25 am 
Lots of history there

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PostTue May 14, 2024 7:36 am 
Chief Joseph wrote:
sign reads "Rabid Bats, do not enter".
sign reads "Rabid Bats, do not enter".
I need one of these signs for my front door.

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PostTue May 14, 2024 7:41 am 
To warn people or keep rabid bats out?

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