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 Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:04 pm |
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| MtnGoat wrote: | | Like it or not, Gore never will live like the everyday people he wants to change |
Why would he need to live like the people he wants to chaNGE. You want him to move into at 2200 square foot house? | Quote: | | nd the changes will hit us much, much harder than they hit him. When fuel prices rise, it smacks my budget hard. What does that do to him? |
And here you tried to convince us that you were a libertarian. You are actually a socialist. Interesting.
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Quark
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:11 pm |
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My favorite thing about this thread is the title is cut off and it reads:
I pledge not to be a...
and the next line is the last posters name.
I pledge not to be a
rat
I pledge not to be a
marylou
I pledge not to be a
whistlingmarmot
"...Other than that, the post was more or less accurate."
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"...Other than that, the post was more or less accurate."
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MtnGoat
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:12 pm |
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| rat wrote: | | Why would he need to live like the people he wants to chaNGE. You want him to move into at 2200 square foot house? |
yes. he wants other people to move into smaller. he's supported urban zone development and forced planning of much smaller units than that, in the name of 'smart' development, and urges planning councils to make these zoned by law. he's spoken of intentionally taxing energy, in order to make it too expensive to heat larger homes and 'encourage' downsizing.
if he's willing to use law to change other people's lives, why yes, he should.
what makes him better than any one of us? are we the little people who change much, while his change is jetting 30 times a year instead of 55 or whatever?
| Quote: | | And here you tried to convince us that you were a libertarian. You are actually a socialist. Interesting. |
Nice try, I would *never* support forcing people to do what he wants them to do. I'm examiing the moral basis of someone who wants to change the actions of billions of people, but will never live the effects of that like they do....especially by choice.
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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MtnGoat
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:13 pm |
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| Quark wrote: | | My favorite thing about this thread is the title is cut off and it reads:
I pledge not to be a...
and the next line is the last posters name.
I pledge not to be a
rat
I pledge not to be a
marylou
I pledge not to be a
whistlingmarmot
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freakin hilarious. quarkie cool.
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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Allison
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:14 pm |
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This is the very flavor of crap that got the Devil's Club shut down.
I really, really like having a legit Stewardship forum here, and I would be really bummed if we lost it.
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MtnGoat
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:17 pm |
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| marylou wrote: | | This is the very flavor of crap that got the Devil's Club shut down.
I really, really like having a legit Stewardship forum here, and I would be really bummed if we lost it. |
This entirely legit.
No name calling.
Rational discussion.
No political parties.
Ecology only.
And a topic that makes you very uncomfortable.
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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Allison
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:20 pm |
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No, I have nothing to be ashamed of besides the fact that I've posted on this stupid thread several times.
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#19
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:27 pm |
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| MtnGoat wrote: | | Quote: | | And here you tried to convince us that you were a libertarian. You are actually a socialist. Interesting. |
Nice try, I would *never* support forcing people to do what he wants them to do. I'm examiing the moral basis of someone who wants to change the actions of billions of people, but will never live the effects of that like they do....especially by choice. |
Sounds like a socialist to me. You want him to give up his "property" for some standard you claim he isn't living up to. You cherry pick info. You choose not to believe his claim "that he had changed his lifestyle and is continuing to do so." I think we know why you choose not to believe him.
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:44 pm |
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I await the Reader's Digest Condensed version of the pledge.
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jimmymac
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:53 pm |
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This thread is on its way out folks.
There's something to be said for walking the talk in stewardship. On the outside chance that the discussion aligns with those concepts going forward, it stays unlocked. If it becomes a debate on one or more political figures, well, you know.
"Profound serenity is the product of unfaltering Trust and heightened vulnerability."
"Profound serenity is the product of unfaltering Trust and heightened vulnerability."
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:07 pm |
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| Quote: | | There's something to be said for walking the talk in stewardship. On the outside chance that the discussion aligns with those concepts going forward, it stays unlocked. If it becomes a debate on one or more political figures, well, you know. |
Then please explain why this thread wasn't locked by one of the many moderators after the first (MtnGoat's) post? The original post meets none of the criteria you expect in this forum. Feel free to say, "you are right rat, we should have and we should have warned MtnGoat for his highly political post". Then lock it.
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Tom
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:23 pm |
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Because then people would whine about why it was locked. It's a no win for the moderators no matter what. I do agree though that this thread is very questionable. The reason I didn't lock it initially was I had no idea what MtnGoat was saying beyond the first sentence. 
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